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GoldenEye 007 Nintendo 64 Community, GoldenEye X, Nintendo 64 Games Discussion GoldenEye Cheats, GoldenEye X Codes, Tips, Help, Nintendo 64 Gaming Community
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Simdrew1993 Agent
Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Planet called Earth |
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:39 pm Post subject: Perfect Dark and GoldenEye music in Crisp Quality |
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Hey what's up my fellow Perfect Dark fans!
I'm not well known around here but have been around here for years since the gameshark days. Very rarely am I here these days. Anyway I posted this to our PD fanclub on deviantART: https://perfect-dark-fanclub.deviantart.com/journal/Perfect-Dark-and-GoldenEye-music-in-Crisp-Quality-706946925
If anyone would like to join us they're more than welcome to, we usually share secrets and post PD themed artworks and work at being the first to share something before anyone else. Great community!
Recently stumbled upon a YouTuber earlier who shared Perfect Dark and Goldeneye music in CD Quality, Myself thinking it would just be simply higher quality versions of their soundtracks.. I was wrong, they sounded so crisp and clear, almost different...almost like a remaster..yet completely the same with better quality according to his description it's the music how it originally was intended to sound and the that the N64's hardware compressed it thus ruining the higher sounds..This is the first time I've ever heard it all sound so clear..may even sound more crisp than the XBLA version..I'm uncertain..that version may not be compressed much. Goldeneye sounds great too, I compared his versions to others..and I did hear much greater sound quality.
This is what he says: Music samples on Nintendo 64 are downsampled heavily (often to 11,025 Hz) and then compressed via ADPCM. This produces muddy-sounding music with heavy distortions in the high range.
These recordings are uncompressed, providing the crisp and clear sound of the original game music. These are not remixes.
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If what he says is true and these aren't remixes then that's incredible!
I wonder how he was able to record and preserve Perfect Dark and GoldenEye's sound since it's already compressed within the games. Because some of these sound even more clear than on Grant Kirkhope's official site or anywhere really..extracting them they'd still be compressed wouldn't they? Wouldn't the damage already be done from compression originally?
Examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFbO_u_U1BE
https://youtu.be/iOMA7xQsijE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVuKSjwN-RI&feature=youtu.be
Here's his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG1p2qHnVfOIuRKOpePIgAA
There was also another youtuber who claimed to have uploaded some of Perfect Dark's and GoldenEyes tracks uncompressed:
https://youtu.be/ud16_ptL90Y
https://youtu.be/mrmc1RYGSkc
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ls9v0pQXLNXbJP6XehHTg
Figured many of you may be excited to hear these. Enjoy! Good day.
~Simdrew1993 _________________ Voiced Adult Ganondorf, Demon Beast Ganon and King Hyrule in this animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwJzWVti4r0
Voiced a Dragon for Elder scrolls V Skyrim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJeqBxWJcLE&feature=youtu.be&t=11s
My YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/simdrew1993
Enjoy my discovered glitch videos in PD 64..I've discovered quite a bit. |
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acceptable67 007
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 1738 Location: US |
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:59 am Post subject: |
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This is so strange, I took a listen to the 'Credits' soundtrack of PD and I swear I've never heard that before, especially that solo at 6:00 in the video. Track sounds completely different. _________________
Rare wrote: | Perfect Dark Forever. |
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Simdrew1993 Agent
Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Planet called Earth |
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, as the hardcore PD fan I am.. I don't recognize that at all either. Same for Bunker 1 in Goldeneye of that same Youtube channel, sounds completely alien to me. Sounds like a slight remix.
Well there are two different channels, the first one seems more how I remember it, yet still different: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5CBrFIhRg
Even still, I don't know if what the first youtuber is saying is true about this being the original sound quality and how n64 compression distorted higher pitch sound, could be true..it just sounds almost too good.. man that guitar solo does sound amazing though!
For instance, Mission Impossible 64 quality was believed to be distorted between N64 and PS1, tracks were slightly different between systems. _________________ Voiced Adult Ganondorf, Demon Beast Ganon and King Hyrule in this animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwJzWVti4r0
Voiced a Dragon for Elder scrolls V Skyrim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJeqBxWJcLE&feature=youtu.be&t=11s
My YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/simdrew1993
Enjoy my discovered glitch videos in PD 64..I've discovered quite a bit.
Last edited by Simdrew1993 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:59 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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SubDrag Administrator
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 6125
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I thought they tried to find the original sound effects, and used that instead, with the midi. So they may not sound exactly the same because different instruments? |
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Simdrew1993 Agent
Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Planet called Earth |
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acceptable67 007
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 1738 Location: US |
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure. I took a listen to the version of Credits that we hear at the end of PD on YT and it is, for sure, different than that uncompressed (cd?) version, with changes in instruments used and that solo that I pointed out omitted.
Grant Kirkhope has an excellent ear for soundtracks, blows me away. _________________
Rare wrote: | Perfect Dark Forever. |
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Simdrew1993 Agent
Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 37 Location: Planet called Earth |
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Let me see real quick...Ah yes. I am noticing it now they are missing, you're right. Plus I don't hear that oooohhh background sound effect in the CD version like the original. Good job catching it acceptable67, I suspected they may be remix's and not originals. Needed others input to clarify..or catch what I couldn't. Because he never did answer me on how he would have recorded or extracted the original unaltered sound to begin with considering most roms would already have the N64 muddy compression as he calls it, there's no way unless he worked for Rare, maybe. Surprised he doesn't just call them (Remasters) then since they likely aren't the real deal... that'd even get him more subscribers.
That he does! Wish he made more game ost's like this nowadays.. every person that I've introduced PD to always remembered it for the music, or would hum it later without realizing it lol. It does get in your head, very catchy. _________________ Voiced Adult Ganondorf, Demon Beast Ganon and King Hyrule in this animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwJzWVti4r0
Voiced a Dragon for Elder scrolls V Skyrim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJeqBxWJcLE&feature=youtu.be&t=11s
My YouTube http://www.youtube.com/user/simdrew1993
Enjoy my discovered glitch videos in PD 64..I've discovered quite a bit. |
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Thundera8589 Secret Agent
Joined: 12 Aug 2015 Posts: 351
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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The first youtube channel link you posted was given to us here by a user named L. Spiro. It's his channel. Suuposedly he got the original instrument samples uncompresse. We don't know how he got them or what is connection was to anybody from Rare but whatever he is for some undiscloed reason he won't tell anybody. He also says he can't distribute the samples out. However, now with reading what you said in one of your posts I am beginning to think he was full of crap and just conned us so that we could just subscribe to his youtube channel. _________________ "The Eye of Thundera, give me sight beyond sight!" |
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Kerr Avon 007
Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 913
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Is it possible to download the Perfect Dark and Goldeneye music files, please? |
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acceptable67 007
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 1738 Location: US |
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Well, L Spiro still posts here so he can feel free to chime in on this if he wants. _________________
Rare wrote: | Perfect Dark Forever. |
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Kode-Z Hacker
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1142 Location: London, England |
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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The PD credits track sounds like the one on Grant Kirkhop’s website, just made to loop. |
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