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 PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:11 am    Post subject: Perfect Dark stuff Reply with quote Back to top

I am not quite sure how the mission voice lines work in Perfect Dark... You need to use the 00CD subaction, which also makes a text display for the duration of the sound line. However, I am not sure how to pick a voice line. The dropdown only seems to contain regular sound effects and guard voice lines, but no mission voice lines.

Also, the only way I can see to replace the voice lines is in the "files" section in the game configuration, where they are included among all other files (setups, models etc.). I am not sure what kind of audio/compression needs to be used for these, and I can't seem to find a way to change whether Joanna says "received/affirmative" etc. after a certain voice line.
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 PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Perfect Dark stuff Reply with quote Back to top

Are you sure there are no mission voices? There are over a thousand entries, but the mission stuff seems to start at 0A71.

Yes, the mission voice files are typically in the file list and are MP3 files. You can take an MP3 file of your own and insert it with the "Re-encode/Inject audio file" button that appears when you have an MP3 selected.

Getting a Joanna reply is part of a special ID setting. Under the Sound Editor tab, there's a little section called 8XXX bank. That's the only thing that seems to modify sounds. I've got a little bit of it figured out... For sounds with the "Affirmative" replies, the single-digit number on the right side of it is usually D and the bottom is usually 0001. However, single-digit seems to affect how it reads values, so if you're setting one up from scratch, make it C instead of D. It seems like a +1 makes it read from the file list directly and the editor doesn't support viewing it that way yet. The combination of C and 0001 definitely give the "Affirmative" replies, but it only works on MP3 sounds. For a hello, it looks like it's 8 and 003C.

Edit: That information applies to editor versions of 4.2 and older.
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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I see them now, apparently I've overlooked them. However, when I insert one of those voice lines, Joanna doesn't say "affirmative" when she should. As one example, I used sound 03A0 (shows up in the dropdown as 0BA0, with the voice line transcription). Then I noticed in Defection, it actually chooses sound 8170, which it says is empty-sized, though it also has 03A0 in brackets, which matches up with the file ID.

I guess if you don't want a Joanna reply, then you can just search for the sound's transcription in the dropdown, but if you do want a reply, you have to search for the file ID in the dropdown, which is listed in brackets. What's confusing is that those can also correspond with other sounds. Another example, in Defection "You're on the same floor as Cassandra's office" is displayed as "8171 (03A1) Female bodyguards, Stand still". It's a Carrington voice line, and not a female bodyguard one of course, the only thing that matches is the file ID in brackets. Joanna replies nicely like this. If I selected "7BA1 You're on the same floor as Cassandra's office", the same voice line would play, but Joanna wouldn't reply.

It's all a bit complicated, but I understand mostly how it works now. I haven't imported a custom MP3 voice line yet, which I intend to do soon.
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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It definitely is confusing, and my explanation skills aren't the best. Hopefully, I can explain it well enough in the editor thread to make it easier for users, but golly, it looks like it'd be a pain to get the drop-downs to render correctly everywhere.

Thankfully, you won't need to worry about how it renders when adding your own stuff since you can apply the right 8XXX settings and point to the sound list with ease.
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 PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The latest editor has been updated to reflect the 8XXX pointing to the file list, so you should have an easier time with that. However, the flags area changed, so l need to update my information.

An "Affirmative" reply happens when the "1F Flags" (two-digit) has +04, but NOT if +08 is present.
A "Hello" reply happens when the 16-bit (four-digit) area is 003C and will override the other reply.
A sound will be muted for the Language Filter if the 16-bit area is 0002 or 0003. It only mutes, so a reply can still happen, which is bad.
Lastly, replies can only come after MP3s.
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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've scrolled through the file list, and I noticed that the 1F flag "16" gives a quiet "affirmative", a "1A" gives a louder "affirmative", and for lines with no reply, "1E" was used. I'm not sure what +04 or +08 means, but that's what I've figured out Razz

The "hello" replies indeed all have 003C as their 16 bits. I will fiddle around with this soon, since I intend to make custom voice lines for my new PD mission (which is one of the very last things only still remaining, yay)!
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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ah, makes sense to have a normal tone and hushed tone response for Joanna. Depending on the situation, she might need to keep quiet to not alert anyone nearby. This is one aspect (the voice lines) I never looked into, so it is great that it's being dissected.
 
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 PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Uufje wrote:
I've scrolled through the file list, and I noticed that the 1F flag "16" gives a quiet "affirmative", a "1A" gives a louder "affirmative", and for lines with no reply, "1E" was used. I'm not sure what +04 or +08 means, but that's what I've figured out Razz


It's pretty much just math stuff. "16" is the presence of +02, +04, and +10. And, "1A" is the presence of +02, +08, and +10. In this particular case, we don't need to worry about +10 or +02 because +10 is always there and we know +02 is handled by the editor now. Thus, we can conclude what +04 and +08 are.

And, indeed, +04 is a quiet "Affirmative" while +08 is a louder "Affirmative". I checked it myself. Not something l picked up on, I always considered it to be random variance at first.
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