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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:49 am    Post subject: Scaramanga's fun house Reply with quote Back to top

I am going to make a solo level of scaramanga's fun house from "the man with the golden gun" Hopefully I'll be able to transfer all the clipping into it. But that is the project I am working on at the moment. I'll post updates; and i'll start the modeling soon.
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have made some clipping advances. First, in Room Positions mode, you can right click on a floor tile, and if you choose Convert Selected Room Floor to Clipping, it will convert anything on the same elevation as what you clicked to a clipping tile. Next, there's also a convert individual tri to clipping in that same menu, which helps if a triangle is slanted.

Next, there are important new clipping features that will help connect clipped rooms. If your rooms aren't perfectly placed, since you probably moved them manually, there are four connect tools. First, you need to select the two tiles in between the rooms. Then, the first option Modify Tri 1 to Tri 2 sets the points in the first triangle identical to the closest touching ones in tri 2. There are two "trys" for each, if the first one draws the triangle overlapping, choose the other "try". The second clipping version instead of moving the tris, moves the points directly across (not matching points, instead just moving straight across), and then splits the corresponding tri so the level works out. The last two options (well four, including two "trys" for each), actually generates a quad in between the two triangles. This is probably not going to be used as much.

Lastly, in portal mode, I added auto-portaling. You must tunr portals on, and make sure you delete all the old portals from the original level, and you can use auto-portaling to do that and place the right ones.

If you get any bg file going, please let me know, and I can try and help.
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks subdrag; what's the poly limit before I get to far in?
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

65536 vertices per room, but don't get that high. There is a texture limit, but not sure what it is. Are you making it in a model editor?
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, i'm making it in 3ds max; is there anything I should keep in mind?
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just make sure it will export to .obj files. Also, you MUST only use bitmaps, and make them all only 32 x 32. The entire map must be textured, and have floor where you walk.
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ok, i'll keep that in mind
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Oh, and at this time, avoid stairs unless they are ramps, and avoid all ladders.
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ok, can I model the whole thing as one part then brake it up?
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, model it as an entire thing, one thing, no groups, and talk to me when you are finished. You will also in the end when you are finished, need to create a floorplan for the level (only the places you can walk, no walls, etc). But you do that LAST. (and separation into rooms I will tell you how last as well). You can color the vertices, if you know how, and make sure it affects the Kd property of output in the .mtl file (that goes along with .obj file).
 
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ok, that makes things faster!
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ok, I finished the modeling. There are upper floors, but you get to it by ramp so it's all good.
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 PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It comes down to this, all modeling completed and aside I beleive there are under 149 vertices but it will probably be multiplied by a factor of 3 in any case when it is transfered to all triangles. Anyways I need help with the textures because I have no idea what I am doing. Ok I need textures for the walk ways, just like in bunker, then for a desert part and some wood textures. Maybe some blue carpet like on train. I often open this file and just blankly stare and I really want to get it done.

My concept is to add little consoles like death traps where a player clicks on it and the "props" (actually characters) fire at the nearest player. But I am honestly stuck right now and need help.

I have included a pick of the stage with the backface cull problem corrected.


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 PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Did you look over GoldenEye's textures to see if there were any useful ones? Just save them, and then texture. Which program are you using to do it?
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have photoshop. I am not sure what textures do what. Some of them are bigger then 32 x 32.
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