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[GERage]

I thought of a couple ideas for Goldeneye over the past week. I was playing some Zelda and Metroid, and I wondered if elements from each could be implemented into Goldeneye. Onto the concepts....

Using weapons to open doors:
In most Metroid games, there are different coloured hatches. Each colour corresponds to the weapon needed to open the door. In Goldeneye, you could have different doors that require you to shoot them with a certain weapon to open them.

Making puzzles in rooms:
There are infinite possibilities with this. Maybe puzzles could involve killing all enemies in a room or using complex bankshots with a grenade launcher to unlock a door. It would give Goldeneye feel sorta like Zelda.

[Dragonsbrethren]

I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Goldeneye, so neither of those ideas really appeal to me.

[connery as bond]

Dragonsbrethren wrote:

I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to Goldeneye, so neither of those ideas really appeal to me.

The puzzle thing reminds me of the trap in Egyptian... so being a purist should sort of appeal to that.

The bankshot thing to unlock a door = No.

[zoinkity]

A neat one would be in the order of the colored block puzzles. You have different colored blocks, each either up (blocking you) or down (so you run over them). Hitting switches/activating things/running over certain color stuff would raise some and lower others.

I'm not really certain how to get doors to only temporarily open when shot. Unfortunately, they only register that at some point they have been shot. If the register was cleared after a certain time maybe it would work...

I wouldn't try to make a bankshot too complex without some guide. Like a 'stand here' tile, walls to guide the shot, or at least walls you can see through so you know how bad it went. Rather easy though. Hit the object, make it blow up, opens door.
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[GERage]

Are you implying that there is a test to check if an object has been shot?

Btw, some of those puzzle ideas seem very cool.

[flopperr999]

I kind of have to agree on Dragonsbrethren on this one. Goldeneye was never meant to be a game like Zelda. I mean think realistically here. It's a game where you play as a Secret Agent, not a game like Metroid. (Although, GE was never really meant to be anything more that GE; not with new missions like Complex, Library, or even completely new, like Office.) But still, Rare's intentions (before they started) weren't to have a puzzle game, but more of a spy-stealth(ish)-infiltrate this and that-esque-game. (Do you like that word combo I just made? ) I mean, if were going to go with puzzles, I think we should stick with selective paths across a room (Like the Egyptian Golden Gun Room).

[zoinkity]

There isn't an action tyep to detect damage, but there are ways to write action blocks that can ;*) There's two things in general that list damage received so far and if something has been hit.

I think the point isn't necessarily to write new GE stages. Who's to say we can't mess around with the engine a bit and make something highly stylized that just happens to be sort of crazy.
The best example of this - and a good excuse to use unorthodox puzzles - would be to have a Scaramanga-influenced maze of sorts. Think of it like dropping an old NES zelda into OoT's engine. He's got a series of weird things you have to do to move from room to room, leading to the climactic end boss battle.

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That unorthodox puzzles work at all is really a testament to how versatile the engine is in the first place. Besides, Rare's only intention was to make a Bond game that doesn't suck too bad, which they did. Anyone who can make an objective as cheap as 'minimize scientist casualties', then use it in practically every blasted level totally wouldn't mind if somebody did something a little goofy.
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[GERage]

All right, I got a door to open by throwing a mine on it. That could easily work with other throw-and-stick objects (plastiques, covert modems, what have you).

I want to clarify: I'm not trying to turn GE into Zelda. I am not making a mission completely based on puzzle-solving! Maybe a couple puzzles in a mission, but that'll be it.

[TAKA Michinoku9.1]

puzzles in missions sound cool great idea
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