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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

that did help me, thanks,

Still having problems compiling though. Haven't been able to compile one room yet!

can you tell me which options your using to get a bsp out of this thing?

I setup the hammer config files to use the zhlt tools. but still not doing anything for me.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The compiling commands you have to use are:

$csg_exe $path\$file -wadinclude GE.wad
$bsp_exe $path\$file
$vis_exe $path\$file

Now you should get a .bsp when you compile.
 
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If something isn't working just keep tinkering with how you have everything set up and hopefully you'll get it to work.

Maybe you could post your compile log so we could see whats going on?
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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you GERage, I finally got most of my rooms compiled in bsps. Very Happy


I get this error on one of my levels.

BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\PROGRA~1\VALVEH~1\tools\zhlt\hlcsg.exe c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1 -wadinclude GE.wad
Entering c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1.map
Error: Entity 1, Brush 0: SKY brushes not allowed in entity
Error: Brush type not allowed in entity
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file http://www.zhlt.info/common-mapping-problems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem


----- END hlcsg -----

Basically, theres a sqaure hole in the ceiling and a sky texture a bit above it? Am I not allowed to have a start point and sky or something?

I'll try some stuff and see what happens.
let me know if you know what the problem is.

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 PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It says sky brushes are not allowed in the log but i've never worked with sky brushes so I can't really say for certain that that is the problem.
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sadly I can't help you, I've never gotten that error before. Sad You'll probably need to tinker with that room until the error's gone.

But hey, it's great to know you got the rest of the rooms compiled! Smile
 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah it is, Thanks again for the help with compiling.
Heres a few pics of the level thats not compiling.






And I tried deleting the sky texture, As you can see I added a hole in the wall so people can look out at the sky with a fence around it.

Heres the new compile log.

hlcsg v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\PROGRA~1\VALVEH~1\tools\zhlt\hlcsg.exe c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1 -wadinclude GE.wad
Entering c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 8 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max lighting memory [ 6291456 ] [ 6291456 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
clip hull type [ legacy ] [ legacy ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
nullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[GE.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: plane with no normal
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file http://www.zhlt.info/common-mapping-problems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1632, 192), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 3: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1568, 192), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 4: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1568, 224), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 4: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1568, 224), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 5: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1632, 192), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1632, 192), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30, Side 5: has a coplanar plane at (-1409, -1632, 192), texture IMAGE620
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999968,-10000,-10000)-(999999968,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 30: outside world(+/-4096): (999999984,-10000,-10000)-(999999984,10000,10000)
(0.00 seconds)

----- END hlcsg -----



hlbsp v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:\PROGRA~1\VALVEH~1\tools\zhlt\hlbsp.exe c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1.log for the cause.

----- END hlbsp -----



hlvis v3.4 Final (Feb 25 2006)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (amckern@yahoo.com)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: C:\PROGRA~1\VALVEH~1\tools\zhlt\hlvis.exe c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file c:\DOCUME~1\admin\MYDOCU~1\GOLDEN~1\lockdown\rooms\CELLRO~1.log for the cause.

----- END hlvis -----
Anybody know what this means?

Like I say this is without the sky texture, But if I add it its pretty much the same other then it says no sky texture allowed with entity[/img]
 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Figured it out, sorta. I deleted all the cells and it compiled. The cells are pretty important for my map. is it possible to add them while in GE Setup editor? or does anybody got any ideas? Thanks
 
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 PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The problem is that Hammer won't allow you to create flat planes.

To work around this, create a block (1 unit thick) with the NULL texture and apply the cell texture to one face of this block. Repeat for every cell you want to have.

Keep in mind that you might have to manipulate the vertices, as intersecting faces in Hammer are removed during compiling.

And yes, you CAN create cells in the GE Editor (using the cell door object).

Your jail cell area is looking really awesome though. Excellent work! Very Happy
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the help, But I kinda got a problem.
I made the cells one block bigger and nulled 5/6 of the blocks.
But I got this.

 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

its in hammers compile process. Since the block is textured, it thinks you can't see anything below it and cuts the tri's accordingly.

The best method for doing this is to create the cell walls in XSI, so that you can make them 4 verticies without any problems.

as a last resort, you could always make them using the cell door object.
 
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 PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

okay sweet, I'll just import it into hammer and take care of the cell walls in there.

Two questions now,

I got all my rooms compiled, My next step should be to convert my BSPs to OBJs. I downloaded the tool bsp to obj and when I try to open it it just quits out of command prompt right away, I take it theres a command line I have to execute to convert my bsps. anybody know what that is exactly?

and second question.
I found a map somebody uploaded to goldeneyevault.com which is co op facility. I really liked it and I wanted to edit and add my own guards and objects, so I took about an hour and added all the bosses to various parts of the level. I saved it and injected it into the rom but when it tries to load, all it does is play the music for the level and just a black screen. anybody got any ideas? I added alot of weird stuff, Like just the one arm laying on the ground and the heroin lol. some of the beta stuff just to see what they look like and such. Mostly just to get familiar with gesetup so I can make my next level better. Let me know what you guys think as to why this level could be freezing.

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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

theirresistibleforce wrote:
second question.
I found a map somebody uploaded to goldeneyevault.com which is co op facility. I really liked it and I wanted to edit and add my own guards and objects, so I took about an hour and added all the bosses to various parts of the level. I saved it and injected it into the rom but when it tries to load, all it does is play the music for the level and just a black screen. anybody got any ideas? I added alot of weird stuff, Like just the one arm laying on the ground and the heroin lol. some of the beta stuff just to see what they look like and such. Mostly just to get familiar with gesetup so I can make my next level better. Let me know what you guys think as to why this level could be freezing.

thanks


Dont do Inject from Project, do Convert ROM thats how i **** up on Drax Facility. Once you click CONVERT ROM in Tools, Ctrl n Click all files (like UsetuparkZ) that you want in it.

Also Go into Prefrences and make the rom your Quick Convert ROM so then you can go into the 21990 Modification and Increase the mt to a higher number.

Im simple words, Texture Overload
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Actually, inject project into ROM should work fine, i think its because you exceeded the texture limit.


Each level can only load so many textures before it crashes. Theres an option in the 21990 menu to increase the texture allowance, but for now, i would just get rid of some of the bosses.


EDIT:

reading over hackbonds post again, he actually got it before me >.>'
 
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 PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah as soon as you inject Quick ROM and Convert ROM no longer work. I could fix quick ROM to inject instead but it's nice it doesn't need to redo the CRC for ROM so it uses standard settings. What do people think?
 
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