GoldenEye 007 Nintendo 64 Community, GoldenEye X, Nintendo 64 Games Discussion

[thenoisydrum]

I've noticed something strange a couple of times now whilst playing against simulants in the Complex.
The sims seem to be able to get out of that little underground room without going out up the tunnel, if you know what I mean. How the hell do they do that?

[fantsu]

There might be somekind of clipping error?
Never seen that myself thou.

[thenoisydrum]

I see

[Captin.Frosty]

thenoisydrum wrote:

I see

Where "EXACTLY" is the location of the clipping error in the level?

I might be able to get a video shot of it if possible.
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[fantsu]

probably something like Goldeneye's Aztec level. Where Jaws can get up from the pit in the beginning.

[Captin.Frosty]

fantsu wrote:

probably something like Goldeneye's Aztec level. Where Jaws can get up from the pit in the beginning.

Wait.. what now?

I just went from intrigued to confused
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[fantsu]

You remember that dark pit where you can fall in Aztec level? In quite beginning of the level? If you can get Jaws down there, he can actually "jump" up.

[Captin.Frosty]

fantsu wrote:

You remember that dark pit where you can fall in Aztec level? In quite beginning of the level? If you can get Jaws down there, he can actually "jump" up.

OH! That dark pit, I was like "Wait.. when the hell was there a dark pit where you fight Jaws?" :P
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[thenoisydrum]

The room has an open ceiling with two run ways going across the top. You can drop down into it or go down the tunnel which is at the top of the catwalk.

For some reason this is really difficult to explain!

[fantsu]

Yep, I know the place you mean, there is one weapon, an spawnpoint and hill. I call it "bunker".

[Wreck]

It's highly possible that the simulants are climbing up the wall, rather than running back up the ramp. They would probably be more likely to do this when they aren't within visible range. If you're a few rooms over and the portals between you and them aren't all activated, it may occur. I guess you could kind of compare it to how the guards somehow manage to get through locked doors - which normally block them - once you're far enough away. It's those tricky, cheating buggers at their finest!
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[Dragonsbrethren]

Yeah, GE's guards (not sure about PD) can "teleport" past obstacles. Not just locked doors, though - they can get past stacks of objects blocking them, and even doors flagged that they can't be opened by guards. If I had to guess why it happens, maybe once the room they're in is no longer loaded, they stop doing object to object collision checks, and just go the fastest route to get to Bond? PD's sims could be the same way, maybe they don't bother with the height check when no one is around to see them? I've certainly never seen one climbing out of that room.

[MRKane]

In saying that I've seen the DarkSims virtually flying around maps. Plus the aveage sims become lethal with a couple of the assult rifles while still being useless with everything else.

Having worked with game AI, there are many places when the AI can override the character movement for the sake of making things work - perhaps they can see the next path node, and so the AI says the character can go there. Just a guess.
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[Yurei]

Dragonsbrethren wrote:

Yeah, GE's guards (not sure about PD) can "teleport" past obstacles. Not just locked doors, though - they can get past stacks of objects blocking them, and even doors flagged that they can't be opened by guards. If I had to guess why it happens, maybe once the room they're in is no longer loaded, they stop doing object to object collision checks, and just go the fastest route to get to Bond? PD's sims could be the same way, maybe they don't bother with the height check when no one is around to see them? I've certainly never seen one climbing out of that room.

Just as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT94O2NGDHI
See how quards mange to pass through doors without opening them.
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[Maxout]

I've noticed all of this too. I try not to take too much advantage of it.
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