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[Rey]

I don't think there is a way to fix it but,just want to know if it's happened to anyone else. My GameShark pro 3.2 While changing up a code has froze.
The GameShark still works and turns on but on my list of games are very weird letters or number icons. Not even game names. Like my Goldeneye has turned to something like **gvsis** along those lines. When I pick or scroll down it freezes. Everytime I turn it on. It's like that. Thought I'd share.
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[AstroBomber]

Maybe it loves you?

[MRKane]

I know mine sort of bit the dust and never really got going again. I've had it shelved for over a year now so might blow the dust off it and see if memory has cleared or something.

I do know that they're notorious for issues like that so I wish you the best but don't know of a good solution
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[mistamontiel]

lolike what Dragonsbrethren or Spyster said I forget whom

"The N64 GS dies by looking at it"

EDIT: You're in the wrong subforum Rey
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[EternallyAries]

Rey wrote:

I don't think there is a way to fix it but,just want to know if it's happened to anyone else. My GameShark pro 3.2 While changing up a code has froze. The GameShark still works and turns on but on my list of games are very weird letters or number icons. Not even game names. Like my Goldeneye has turned to something like **gvsis** along those lines. When I pick or scroll down it freezes. Everytime I turn it on. It's like that. Thought I'd share.

A gameshark are well known to do this. One time this happen to my working 3.3 gameshark. (Before it bite the dust of course) And what I did to fix it was to blow into the bottom of the cart a few times, and it fix every little glitch in it. Then again, if it does not fix. You should get a printer cord. And hook it up to your computer and put in all the original codes back into the gameshark. It should help the problem. But in most cases like this. your gameshark might need a format. In which I believe it can be done over the computer only. (Correct me if I am wrong) And it should fix your problem.
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[zoinkity]

No, there should be a way to delete all codes from the options or something like that. (Maybe that's unlisted? It's one of the text entries) You'd be left with nothing though.

From the code side your list is only corrupt past a certain point. You can usually get away with deleting everything from there onwards.

If you do have a PC connection you can't dump the filelist and expect to get a sensible text file, but you can use the hacked tools to dump your ROM. From there I can decrypt and strip out the codelist, then correct the error and hand it back as a text file.

At computer repair places, parts shops, pawn shops, etc. you can find old boxes for stupidly low prices. Around here they go as low as $20. You can get away with something as antiquated as a 386. It's worth getting an old box if you have a GS, even if it spends a lot of time in the closet.
You can do a surprising amount of things with a GS besides just uploading codes and whatnot. A GS is almost as good a debugger as Nemu, you can upload executable code at runtime, dump data, do more intricate searches than what's provided by the cheat search, and theoretically much more.

Most GSs can be salvaged, BTW. Almost all. Saw one that took a chair leg through the board, but otherwise the rest just needed love. They're like the VW Beatle of the video game world.
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[Rey]

Well I don't own a wire to hook it up to the computer. I'm not sure How it looks actually. I'll look into it. Also, I can't even be on the list of games for a while before it freezes. Hope it doesent mean I must get another. As I'd be my 3 one.
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[MultiplayerX]

This is why I am SO glad Sub created the editor so we could emulate GE. Invest in a laptop and grab up PJ64 and buy some cheap pc controllers from ROSS etc. I use PS3 cheapos. Work great. I have about a MILLION veteran hours on gamesharks and I'm telling you you're lucky when you find a stable one. I had ONE that lasted three years without a miss then everything else was just sh*t. The refurbed and remakes are mostly all sh*t really. Try out the editor and running the game on pc. MAJOR difference in clarity.

[Rey]

But,what is it that really causes it to end up like that? Mine is not dirty. I have kept it in very good shape. That GS might have lasted me like X said 3 years. Last thing I remember doing was modifying a music code.(Which is changing the last 2 digits) When I hit exit and save it went to list then it stuttered and the names changed.
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[MultiplayerX]

Even if you bought it NEW .....some of them just short out. It was a problem even when they were actually descent. The real issue I think is that the circuit boards overheat and short out when you use the PC port. I don't think they anticipated them to be used for the level of coding people would be hacking them to. They simply just did not design them for extended use. The proof is in the history. Sad really Next thing you know everyone's Everdrive64's may just BURN OUT but I think the people that made them actually designed the quality into them.

[Kerr Avon]

MultiplayerX wrote:

Even if you bought it NEW .....some of them just short out. It was a problem even when they were actually descent. The real issue I think is that the circuit boards overheat and short out when you use the PC port. I don't think they anticipated them to be used for the level of coding people would be hacking them to. They simply just did not design them for extended use. The proof is in the history. Sad really Next thing you know everyone's Everdrive64's may just BURN OUT but I think the people that made them actually designed the quality into them.

I can't speak with any technical knowledge, but from what I can see, the Everdrive's situation is totally different from the Gameshark's; my ED64 has never once crashed or in any way failed, whereas Gameshark's (both in my experience and from what I've read of the experience of others') are temperamental from the day you buy them. Plus I frequently visit the official Everdrive forums (http://krikzz.com/forum/) and the users there mostly have nothing but praise for the devices, and the very few times it's otherwise then the problem is usually fixed via a software (operating system) update. KRIKzz, the man who designs and builds the Everdrives, visits the forum almost every day, and is always ready to answer questions and suggestions. And regarding the ED64, a new OS was released a couple of weeks back, and is currently under-going bug hunting (see http://krikzz.com/pub/support/ed64/os-bin/changelist.txt for a list of fixes and improvements) and KRIKzz has added things that users have requested. He doesn't have to do any of that, of course - his work is all unpaid, since we already have the ED64 so he doesn't gain a penny by improving the software and letting us download it for free, he does it because he cares about the products and the users.

I saw nothing at all like that level of support for the Gamesharks. Basically, you bought the Gameshark/Action Replay/Equaliser/Xploder 64, it was less than perfect when you bought it, and little if anything was done to improve it.

[Wreck]

I've had this happen with one or two GameSharks in the past. Sometimes only certain entries would be affected, and others times it would plague the entire game select menu and code list. It would crash when picking certain games, or even if you scroll down to an entry that may use in an invalid character (well, that would be my guess). Uploading a new code list from your computer should correct it. But I'm not sure if doing that nowadays is as simple as it was a decade ago.
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[zoinkity]

So it is booting? It just crashes periodically in the menu?
Whew! Sorry, I thought the thing was actually dead!

Okay, then it's just a codelist error. Probably a parsing error. I thought you could reset (or fry) the codelist from the options menu, but let me check on that.
So long as you can boot into the menus, you can also update via PC.

A large part of why it experiences write errors is due to a 16bit storage system. To read or write a word from its ROM you use two different address ranges. It seriously complicates things.

MultiplayerX: there are no GS clones. They did support them though via the update system and by developing the different keycodes. 3.0 is remarkably different from 3.3. Even from 3.2 to 3.3 there's codetype additions.

Screw it. Worst case, you can mail the thing off to somebody and they can mail it back fixed.
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[Rey]

Yes it boots up and everything. Just as soon as I get on the list and scroll down I'd freeze. But I don't have the materials to update or fix the problem by computer. Not sure How to even start it either.
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[MultiplayerX]

Kerr Avon wrote:

MultiplayerX wrote: Even if you bought it NEW .....some of them just short out. It was a problem even when they were actually descent. The real issue I think is that the circuit boards overheat and short out when you use the PC port. I don't think they anticipated them to be used for the level of coding people would be hacking them to. They simply just did not design them for extended use. The proof is in the history. Sad really Next thing you know everyone's Everdrive64's may just BURN OUT but I think the people that made them actually designed the quality into them. I can't speak with any technical knowledge, but from what I can see, the Everdrive's situation is totally different from the Gameshark's; my ED64 has never once crashed or in any way failed, whereas Gameshark's (both in my experience and from what I've read of the experience of others') are temperamental from the day you buy them. Plus I frequently visit the official Everdrive forums (http://krikzz.com/forum/) and the users there mostly have nothing but praise for the devices, and the very few times it's otherwise then the problem is usually fixed via a software (operating system) update. KRIKzz, the man who designs and builds the Everdrives, visits the forum almost every day, and is always ready to answer questions and suggestions. And regarding the ED64, a new OS was released a couple of weeks back, and is currently under-going bug hunting (see http://krikzz.com/pub/support/ed64/os-bin/changelist.txt for a list of fixes and improvements) and KRIKzz has added things that users have requested. He doesn't have to do any of that, of course - his work is all unpaid, since we already have the ED64 so he doesn't gain a penny by improving the software and letting us download it for free, he does it because he cares about the products and the users. I saw nothing at all like that level of support for the Gamesharks. Basically, you bought the Gameshark/Action Replay/Equaliser/Xploder 64, it was less than perfect when you bought it, and little if anything was done to improve it.

Go with Kerr Avon on this. Get an Everdrive. He says they are good so I would quit on the gameshark. They are simply UNRELIABLE.