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 PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You would get better results if you created meshes for the faces. It's not that difficult to do.
 
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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes he would. But I started like that too. Depending on your level when you begin, it could already be hard to just replace heads and apply them decently on the faces already inside the rom. If you come back to the first posts of this topic you will see.
This is what I'm doing today. But both still have some part that need serious tweaking otherwise I would have shared them here already.




Both have the same polycount as the duncan head. About 147 or something.
Also it bother me when I compare to the original pictures, that the heads seem stretched vertically. It seems like there's a fisheye effect be it in Deled or the game, when really close to the model.
 
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Wow, that's very good. Thanks for sharing.
 
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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, you really do a terrific job on your custom heads. Those high quality pictures go a long way, too.
 
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 PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks. Well to me it all depends on the quality of my reference.
Without quality pictures like that, taken for the purpose of 3D modelling, I just cannot achieve anything. The quality of them is very important.

And guess what ? I don't think they're that great. The lightning is very different on the front picture, between the side, which require then 2 side picture, which I'd like to avoid.
Once I'll finish work on them I'll give the .bin and all the files for people to add them to their roms, if someone want it to.

Right now, the first one has very short hair but that happen to look like white hair ingame (it's very tough to tweak contrast and things for N64), and the second need more work on top of the head (I took pictures that hide that).


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 PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Are you taking the front and side photos and blending them?

Just interested in your method compared with mine.

I did work out how to normalize lighting as you may have noticed in 006 on previous page.

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Yes I do blend them. And I did learned from your tutorial.
Only thing I can't understand with at all with the 2.0 technique to optimize pixel density, is when you say to subdivide and then move the vertex so they align vertically.
I really wonder if I could reach one step further doing this. I'm not really sure it would improve that much the quality. But I still need to achieve this to compare.
But man it takes times until that model is inside the game and scaled perfectly.

To be honest at the moment I do a lot of experimentation with my technique and not always follow the same method. Some models just go smoother than other depending on the reference, but blending is something I always do first.
 
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the reason I say to sub-divide is that some modelers strech textures differently.

The lower face for example is narrow triangles in front projection, so if you pull them out to make a rectangle they will be very stretched, and because they are triangles they will have the effect of stretching in 1 direction.
By sub-dividing you help the modeler to strech more evenly.

I have to admit though that I did NOT sub-divide Atternburgh (santa), I simply made rectangle, rendered to texture, re-applied texture map, resized texture, imported into GE.

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Currently working on that.
For some reason I procrastinated from all the things I'm working on (I have 3 weapon models, and 3 levels...) and did that.
Still lot of work to finish them but oh well, wanted to show something.


Brosnan is the same polycount as the original, I just moved some vertexs and the UVs. Sadly on the console, most of the views have camera too far and resolution is too low to really show off the model. It's still nice tho.
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 PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Either that, or a dirty wizard. Razz

Brosnan looks pretty good. Be interesting to see how he appears in game on console.
 
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Yep it's Oussama.

I only have a few tweaks to do with Brosnan and I'll share. I'm actually very glad with how it render on console. I think the contrast on the original textures is too low.
But it obviously was one of the first one done. I bet B Jones would have loved to have access to the pictures we can have today thanks to the internet...also photoshop.
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heh that's funny ! Very Happy
 
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 PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Wreck wrote:
Brosnan looks pretty good. Be interesting to see how he appears in game on console.


Trying to make another at the same time. I will share friday night.


Mine is on the left. Right is Rare's. That guy look so different in Goldeneye than in other movies I found with him.
The only decent picture I found decent was the same one used by B Jones. kinda tricky to improve it. I'll work on color maybe later.

Right now it has the same polycount (75) than the original. I'll improve the geometry too because it's way too low.
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