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 PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You've seen the new 2 characters from Army Men Sarge's Heroes

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 PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Using scale you can create tiny characters that are below the hip height clamp, but you need to scale your models accordingly. Importing models into PD is practically the same guide, but the rig joint numbers are swapped. If you use a PD character as a reference the tutorial can be followed along. Importing environmental reflection rooms is the same as well. I will update the tutorial with that step soon.



Another trick you can do is add a larger surrounding inverted polymesh to each of your character's part to create a cel shaded effect.



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 PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

This is so cool, never thought ide see full character imports, cant wait to see what people are going to do with this Very Happy
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SubDrag has fixed a bug caused from threaded mode. Every model import would have the wrong mipmap settings and would display corrupted in-game, it's fixed in the latest beta.
 
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 PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the great tutorial, Pavarini! I was able to import another N64 model really easily by following it.



I'll work on others now to continue practicing with different sizes and art styles, but I'm still surprised of how well it works!
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 PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

No problem, I am happy someone was able to use the tutorial.

If anyone has issues with model importing I can offer some help on Graslu's discord server (links on his YT channel).
 
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Ness! That's pretty fun. Nice work. Smile
 
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 PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That's very cool, graslu!

I wish I had more time so I could focus on this and learn how to do it. You people are getting into unexplored territory and I feel like I'm falling behind.

I always wondered if envmapping could be used in characters and then combine that with the outline shown in pavarini's last pics to simulate a convincing cel-shading.

 
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Quite an interesting idea. I haven't yet thought about it but I will try over the week to get a simple shape working with cel shading.
 
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I tried out the cel shaded technique with some reflection. I wasn't able to figure out a way to wrap around an already existing model as a secondary room, so I tried it on a green soldier instead. Here is my attempt https://files.catbox.moe/xgv36b.mp4
 
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 PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That's really cool! I missed your original posts about this so I'm seeing these for the first time just now!

Love how far we have come in our understanding of this game.
 
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pavarini wrote:
I tried out the cel shaded technique with some reflection. I wasn't able to figure out a way to wrap around an already existing model as a secondary room, so I tried it on a green soldier instead. Here is my attempt https://files.catbox.moe/xgv36b.mp4


hey, he looks like a green army soldier!
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Hahaha! Johnny Thunder will love what you've done and probably request it for his mods.

What does the reflection texture look like? I still need to fully undestand how they work so I can plan the final outcome in advance.

Can you do the same test with a two colors texture in order to recreate the effect I showed in the Jet Set Radio picture (the figure on the right)?

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Jajaja, A Johnny Thunder le va a encantar lo que has hecho y seguramente lo pida para sus mods.

¿Cómo es la textura de reflexión? Todavía tengo que entender del todo como funcionan para poder preveer el resultado final.

¿Puedes hacer la misma prueba con una textura de dos colores para recrear el efecto que se ve en la imagen de Jet Set Radio (la figura de la derecha)?


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Sogun wrote:
Hahaha! Johnny Thunder will love what you've done and probably request it for his mods.

What does the reflection texture look like? I still need to fully undestand how they work so I can plan the final outcome in advance.

Can you do the same test with a two colors texture in order to recrete the effect I showed in the Jet Set Radio picture (the figure on the right)?


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K1lo wrote:
That's really cool! I missed your original posts about this so I'm seeing these for the first time just now!
Thanks!
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What does the reflection texture look like? I still need to fully undestand how they work so I can plan the final outcome in advance.
The reflection can be any texture. For instance here is what the model looks like set to this texture . The normals were baked using XSI and point lighting from above (with a slight bias towards the front of the model).
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Can you do the same test with a two colors texture in order to recrete the effect I showed in the Jet Set Radio picture (the figure on the right)?
Sure. Here is a simple blue texture with one side dark . I still haven't figured out a way to add the cel shaded effect without duplicating all triangles so please excuse the lack of polish.

I was not able to create a secondary room on top of the environmental mapped rooms for some reason. If you can figure that issue out then it's possible to recreate the Jet Set Radio model.
 
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