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[SubDrag]

If you find the Archives, an old GE message board, that would be...awesome. I do remember Bad Boyz's site though, good one. Or my old GE site on Oddjob or something.

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They were at

http://www.insidetheweb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi//mb102484

The Wayback Machine picks up towards the end, when it was nothing but off-topic posting. Æ became Eon_Blue, and hangs out around the video game music remixing community (like OCRemix). Pelord took the reigns of the Sonic 2 Beta site for a few years after I showed it to him back on the board, and is now a moderator at the Nintendo forums. I became ZeaLitY and started the Chrono Compendium; I found Æ by accident in OCR's IRC channel while talking about "the good old days" of when I first began using the internet. Speaking of which, I finally got my own dose of beta fever when I helped explore the Chrono Trigger Prerelease (JLukas made it all possible and even wrote some event enabler codes).

Can't remember anyone else. The GAF migrated to a Beseen board and then to something else before drying up completely.

[SubDrag]

Wow it's like the Mickey Mouse club. Shame we don't have any of the old posts.

[Dangerousd777]

I remember having the midi, I too have lost it...

This is one of the internet's great mysteries... who exactly was K. Goach? Was it their real name or just a pseudonym? Are they still around to this day?

It may seem they have nothing online but who knows, it could be someone who is frequently on Myspace or Youtube.

For all that we know, they could still be making midis under a different name.
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[Dangerousd777]

K. Goach may actually be referring to Ken Goach, who currently is a software engineer at Dell and from July 1989 - July 1998 he was a information developer and software engineer for IBM, he went to Texas Tech University from 1984 - 1989. (From LinkedIn)

During IBM as a software engineer? It makes sense that this person could be a likely candidate for the composer. They may have even coded their own midi software for this.

I would like to know where I could find the original Midi, it goes by the names "The Rain" or "The Citadel" but I've been unable to find it anywhere.
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[Jedi QuestMaster]

Sorry for necromancing this thread, but I finally got around to arranging "The Rain" using GoldenEye soundfonts:

http://www.last.fm/music/Arc-Demon/GoldenEye+007%3A+The+Citadel

There wasn't a "choir" sound file high enough to adequately do the voices, but I think I found a suitable instrument.

Now on to do some album art!

[Dangerousd777]

Jedi QuestMaster wrote:

Sorry for necromancing this thread, but I finally got around to arranging "The Rain" using GoldenEye soundfonts: http://www.last.fm/music/Arc-Demon/GoldenEye+007%3A+The+Citadel There wasn't a "choir" sound file high enough to adequately do the voices, but I think I found a suitable instrument. Now on to do some album art!

Thank you so much! I'm listening to the track, it's really good, arranged perfectly.

Now I just wish I could find the original midi.

Alex Rasmussen has a good version of The Rain, this is quoted from his site Alexras.info [Full original source: http://alexras.info/2006/07/12/a-little-digital-music-experiment] as follows:

"I’ve been fascinated for a long time with how the guys who composed music for Nintendo games back in the 8-bit days managed to do so much with so little hardware. The Nintendo’s sound chip only supported square waves, pulse waves, triangle waves and noise, could only produce three (or was it four) simultaneous sounds at a time, and (as far as I know) had to be programmed by hand one note at a time. Despite these limitations, some composers managed to make some really great music using just this rinky-dink little chip.

For a long time I’ve been looking for a virtual instrument for Apple’s Garageband application that would accurately reproduce the Nintendo’s sound. After more than a year of poking around on the Internet I’ve finally found the perfect AU – it’s called Magical 8Bit Plug and the developers who wrote it deserve a major high-five.

Anyway, after work yesterday I went hunting around for a MIDI to render with this nifty new virtual instrument. I found this track called “The Rain�, written by a guy named K. Goach in 1993, that I thought sounded pretty cool. I cut a large portion of the tracks in the original MIDI out of the final remix to decrease the excess layering of sound as much as possible. Ultimately, I think this track could be accurately reproduced using two NESs each playing 3 tracks. I’m pretty happy with the result, so I thought I’d share it with the web. Enjoy.
http://www.alexras.info/dloads/therain_nintendos.mp3
(The Rain, for two Nintendos) [mp3, 5.6 MB]"

Ken Goach is likely the person who composed the original score.
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[Dangerousd777]

It would be awesome if someone could do a piano rendition or something and either post it on Youtube or post a link to the sound file here.
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[Jedi QuestMaster]

Original MIDI (Temporary Link):

http://famicomworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/The-Rain.mid

[Dangerousd777]

Jedi QuestMaster wrote:

Original MIDI (Temporary Link): http://famicomworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/The-Rain.mid

Thank you so much! I managed to get a permanent link up:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/d2n3ilmb5hg/The-Rain.mid

Or just http://www.mediafire.com/file/d2n3ilmb5hg

I will make sure that this awesome composition remains publicly available.

Now, if only I studied music, I could make my own rendition. I would so do a hardstyle version!
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[Dangerousd777]

I'm making a couple Youtube videos for the different versions of this since there are none (except for one video that has an alternate version)

Would anyone be able to ask Ken Goach if he made this? If so, we've hit the nail on the head -> ken@austin.ibm.com

I found the email from here: http://galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl/~polak/midi/gus.html

It's a GUS (Gravis UltraSound) Midi FAQ...

With a little bit of research, the mysterious 'K. Goach' has been revealed.

"Gravis Ultrasound or GUS is a sound card for the IBM PC Compatible Platform, made by Canada-based Advanced Gravis Computer Technology Ltd. It was very popular in the demo scene in the 1990s, due to its superior sound quality compared to similarly-priced soundcards of its time.

The Gravis Ultrasound was unique at the time of its launch (1992) with its use of 'wavetable' sample-based music synthesis technology on the IBM PC platform — the ability to use real-world sound recordings rather than artificial computer-generated waveforms to base a musical instrument on; so a piano sounds like an actual real piano, a trumpet like an actual trumpet, etc. The GUS was remarkable for MIDI playback quality with a large set of instrument patches that could be stored in its own RAM, having up to 32 hardware audio channels." ~ Wikipedia - "Gravis Ultrasound".

Yep, we've found our composer.
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[Dangerousd777]

Dragonsbrethren wrote:

It's very cool to hear this again, I lost the midi when I reformatted my old computer and I've never been able to find it since. The real Citadel music is better, but I've always liked this song.

We found your midi, look above. (:
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[Dragonsbrethren]

I'll one-up you; I recently found its source:

Quote:

Actually, I believe I found the origin for it. Recently, I installed the Gravis Ultrasound drivers and patches for use in DOSBox, and that's one of the included sample MIDIs.

Also, I had it available on my webspace for some time, until my old host went down, and it ships with the GoldenEditor (plays automatically when Citadel is opened, if you have music enabled). That post you quoted is pretty old.

[Dangerousd777]

Dragonsbrethren wrote:

I'll one-up you; I recently found its source: Quote: Actually, I believe I found the origin for it. Recently, I installed the Gravis Ultrasound drivers and patches for use in DOSBox, and that's one of the included sample MIDIs. Also, I had it available on my webspace for some time, until my old host went down, and it ships with the GoldenEditor (plays automatically when Citadel is opened, if you have music enabled). That post you quoted is pretty old.

True, it is old, but before it was completely mysterious, everyone wondered who K. Goach was and why he made this.

It's damn good for being a sample midi.
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[Dangerousd777]

I found a Midi to MP3 converter and it renders the midi differently than Windows XP's Software Midi Synthesizer.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/udmdjvijnnw/The-Rain.mp3

The only video I know of where the original song is featured is a video for the Mosin Nagant's history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhAlKU7P8Xc

Going to see if I can make a version later on in FL Studio or something. I learned to read music last night and I'm almost finished learning to play by ear.
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