GoldenEye 007 Nintendo 64 Community, GoldenEye X, Nintendo 64 Games Discussion

[Kode-Z]

Ok, I'm scrapping the idea of doing a solo mission using Air Base - Loads of elevator shafts and escalators without the stairs! Although I will make a multi map from the outside hill top to the top of the escalators. (I did clipping for the whole level, using the sides of the escalators as ramps but it was too glitchy and lots of rooms blacked out. Looked awesome, though!)

This my first attempt at a Multi map, so wish me luck!

[SubDrag]

How'd the clipping turn out?

[Kode-Z]

It was ok, but when it came to elevator shafts, I left them out. Shame really - would've been great to make a solo mission out of it!

[Kode-Z]

Looks like Air Base Multi won't happen - too glitchy. 021990 edits didn't affect the blackouts, no matter what level it was injected in. Not only that, but when I tested the level, it didn't feel like a good multi map.

Oh well, never mind...

[SubDrag]

You didn't lose Rare's portals did you? Email it to Zoinkity, he might be able to see what's going on. It'd be useful to have your clipping files.

[Kode-Z]

Rare's portals were still there. The main room that blacked out was the first main room, with the lift shaft and info desk. If anything, at least the clipping has been done (sort of).

In a level like Air Base (and similar for that matter), what will we do when it comes to lift shafts anyway?

[Wreck]

We've had some ideas regarding mission versions, by making mock-up elevators and using Action Blocks to warp you to the other area. But in multiplayer, that simply won't work. In that case, we'd likely need to avoid those locations, by either blocking them off or locking their doors. Certain situations may allow you to clip somewhere else, which would let you navigate from one place to another, but vertical shafts won't really do. Not with the whole "player character remains on ground level, even though they're twenty feet in the air" issue.
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[Kode-Z]

On the subject of warping, what's the action block/s for it?

[Dragonsbrethren]

Wreck wrote:

We've had some ideas regarding mission versions, by making mock-up elevators and using Action Blocks to warp you to the other area. But in multiplayer, that simply won't work. In that case, we'd likely need to avoid those locations, by either blocking them off or locking their doors. Certain situations may allow you to clip somewhere else, which would let you navigate from one place to another, but vertical shafts won't really do. Not with the whole "player character remains on ground level, even though they're twenty feet in the air" issue.

Couldn't an elevator be faked by making the shaft use ladder clipping? I guess it would suffer from the same problem with the player being in the air. I've never actually watched a player climb a ladder, just guards "teleporting" up them.

Kode-Z wrote:

On the subject of warping, what's the action block/s for it?

It's included in the setup editor's Action Block Samples as WarpBond.act.

Last edited by Dragonsbrethren on Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:41 pm; edited 1 time in total

[SubDrag]

Warping is included with the editor in the actions folder under the geeditor. The best bet is teleportation, or just falling down. In multi, you can't do ladders. It's fine for solo though.

[Kode-Z]

Going sleightly off topic for the moment, can guards use ladders? I've never really noticed myself.

[Wreck]

The computer controlled characters can use ladders, but they just sort of rise and fall at a fast rate. Best example of this would be in the Dam, at any of the three guard towers near the bungee jumping platform. It's more noticable to see them go down a ladder, rather than up. Just run past them, go up the ladder, and watch them follow you.
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[SubDrag]

Can guards climb them better in PD? There are so few ladders in PD if I can remember.

[Kode-Z]

For solo, we'd have to make do with warping then. Hey, it's better than nothing!